We are currently experiencing the collapse of everything that has constituted the "strength" of the Catholic Church as a monarchical system up to now. Eugen Drewermann's diagnosis in a conversation with Michael Albus is: This is the hour of the Biblical prophet Jeremiah, who proclaimed a new image of God in the demise of the old one: We all have the ability to listen to God in our heart. This hope is directed to a small group who has the experience: God is not bound to a clerical system. God is found in the hands of the congregation: "There is no longer any organizational, commanding body and no authority of any kind. So we actually only have the word of God in the circles of those who want to hold onto it and follow it with their minds and hearts."